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Wonder's master branch should b= uild properly on latest Java with maven ($mvn clean install). It should als= o build in your eclipse workspace if you import them as maven projects. I t= hink the .project files are in the repo, so you may only need to import the= m and eclipse will figure out they are maven projects. I've also put togeth= er a sample wonder project that can run in your eclipse workspace or build = into a docker container at https://github.com/nullterminated/wodocker That's a bit old now and I have actually put together a maven archetype to = produce a project like that with a few improvements since then, but I haven= 't gotten around to publishing it anywhere. There has been some discussion = on the mailing list about adding one for D2W and a WOFramework and pushing = those three onto maven central. I just have the one Wonder App archetype at= the moment though. There's been a bit of discussion about making a new build with the recent c= hanges, but so far that hasn't been done. It should be simple enough to do,= but I don't have credentials on the wocommunity jenkins server to do that = myself. I used to have ssh to that, but I've long since lost that ssh key. https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/discussions/996 Ramsey ________________________________ From: WebObjects & WOnder Development on b= ehalf of Aaron Rosenzweig Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 7:42 AM To: WebObjects & WOnder Development Subject: [WO-DEV] When add-exports ALL-UNNAMED is not enough (Java 17) [You don't often get email from aaron@chatnbike.com. Learn why this is impo= rtant at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] Hi WOrriors, I=92m upgrading to Java 17 from Java 1.8 and have run into snags in my loca= l Eclipse workspace. Perhaps you=92ve struggled with this too? In general, this VM argument is helpful but not enough: --add-exports java.= base/sun.security.action=3DALL-UNNAMED The issue has to do with changes from Java 1.8 and java modules. I can use 1.8 compatibility mode with my workspace (from Java 17 VM) and th= ere are no errors and no problems. When I change to Java 17 compatibility mode, it falls apart. My java apps are ok, but many of the WOnder frameworks don=92t build anymor= e. For example ERAttachment. I have this error: The package org.xml.sax is acc= essible from more than one module: , java.xml To me that means that it is available in a system module =93java.xml=94 and= also in some old jar file=85 two places. I clicked on ERAttachment (in WO Explorer pane) and then right click to do = "build path" and then "configure build path." I then went to the last tab "= Module Dependencies" clicked "java.xml" and then clicked "remove." It gave = me warnings that other things use it but I did it anyway. Now the errors ar= e gone for org.xml.sax.Attributes and similar imports. Yay! I=92m not done yet but I did similar things as follows: =95 ERAttachment - remove java.xml =95 ERRest - remove java.xml =95 ERChangeNotificationJMS - remove java.naming =95 ExcelGenerator - remove java.xml =95 ERPDFGeneration - remove java.xml =95 ERSelenium - remove java.xml =95 ERXiss - remove java.xml =95 DRGrouping - remove java.xml =95 ERJaxWS - remove java.xml =95 ERProfiling - lost cause? jdk.internal.loader is inaccessible s= o I closed the project in my workspace (and am not currently using it). I=92m still coming to grips with all this but I have following unresolved a= nd possibly incorrectly stated questions: 1) Do most of us run with 1.8 compatibility in newer JVMs and leave it at t= hat? 2) Do some of us run with newer VM compatibility modes (to access new featu= res of Java) but then use =93ALL-UNNAMED=94 hacks along with removing syste= m module hacks like I was talking about above? 3) Do some of us use pre-built jars of Wonder and not build from source in = our Eclipse projects to get around some of these issues? But if so, that me= ans it=92s not as nice to just dive into the source code and quickly trace = / change things as we are working... 4) Should we consider putting WOnder frameworks into module friendly config= urations? Or is that not possible because we need to support Java 1.8 too? 5) What is the best way to use Java 17 VM along with any new java syntax / = functionality while still using WOnder frameworks? 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Hi Aaron,

I did some work on this ab= out 3 months ago. Wonder's master branch should build properly on latest Java with maven ($mvn clean install). It s= hould also build in your eclipse workspace if you import them as maven proj= ects. I think the .project files are in the repo, so you may only need to i= mport them and eclipse will figure out they are maven projects. I've also put together a sample wonder projec= t that can run in your eclipse workspace or build into a docker container a= t

htt= ps://github.com/nullterminated/wodocker


That's a bit old now and I have actually put together a maven archetype to = produce a project like that with a few improvements since then, but I haven= 't gotten around to publishing it anywhere. There has been some discussion = on the mailing list about adding one for D2W and a WOFramework and pushing those three onto maven central. = I just have the one Wonder App archetype at the moment though.

There's been a bit of discussion about making a new build with the recent c= hanges, but so far that hasn't been done. It should be simple enough to do,= but I don't have credentials on the wocommunity jenkins server to do that = myself. I used to have ssh to that, but I've long since lost that ssh key.

https://github.com/wocommunity/wonder/discussions/996<= /a>

Ramsey
From: WebObjects & WOnd= er Development <webobjects-dev@wocommunity.org> on behalf of Aaron Ro= senzweig <aaron@chatnbike.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 7:42 AM
To: WebObjects & WOnder Development <webobjects-dev@wocommuni= ty.org>
Subject: [WO-DEV] When add-exports ALL-UNNAMED is not enough (Java 1= 7)
 
[You don't often get email from aaron@chatnbike.co= m. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/Le= arnAboutSenderIdentification ]

Hi WOrriors,

I=92m upgrading to Java 17 from Java 1.8 and have run into snags in my loca= l Eclipse workspace. Perhaps you=92ve struggled with this too?

In general, this VM argument is helpful but not enough: --add-exports java.= base/sun.security.action=3DALL-UNNAMED

The issue has to do with changes from Java 1.8 and java modules.

I can use 1.8 compatibility mode with my workspace (from Java 17 VM) and th= ere are no errors and no problems.

When I change to Java 17 compatibility mode, it falls apart.

My java apps are ok, but many of the WOnder frameworks don=92t build anymor= e.

For example ERAttachment. I have this error: The package org.xml.sax is acc= essible from more than one module: <unnamed>, java.xml

To me that means that it is available in a system module =93java.xml=94 and= also in some old jar file=85 two places.

I clicked on ERAttachment (in WO Explorer pane) and then right click to do = "build path" and then "configure build path." I then we= nt to the last tab "Module Dependencies" clicked "java.xml&q= uot; and then clicked "remove." It gave me warnings that other th= ings use it but I did it anyway. Now the errors are gone for org.xml.sax.Attributes= and similar imports. Yay!

I=92m not done yet but I did similar things as follows:
        =95 ERAttachment - remove java.x= ml
        =95 ERRest - remove java.xml
        =95 ERChangeNotificationJMS - re= move java.naming
        =95 ExcelGenerator - remove java= .xml
        =95 ERPDFGeneration - remove jav= a.xml
        =95 ERSelenium - remove java.xml=
        =95 ERXiss - remove java.xml
        =95 DRGrouping - remove java.xml=
        =95 ERJaxWS - remove java.xml         =95 ERProfiling - lost cause? jd= k.internal.loader is inaccessible so I closed the project in my workspace (= and am not currently using it).

I=92m still coming to grips with all this but I have following unresolved a= nd possibly incorrectly stated questions:

1) Do most of us run with 1.8 compatibility in newer JVMs and leave it at t= hat?

2) Do some of us run with newer VM compatibility modes (to access new featu= res of Java) but then use =93ALL-UNNAMED=94 hacks along with removing syste= m module hacks like I was talking about above?

3) Do some of us use pre-built jars of Wonder and not build from source in = our Eclipse projects to get around some of these issues? But if so, that me= ans it=92s not as nice to just dive into the source code and quickly trace = / change things as we are working...

4) Should we consider putting WOnder frameworks into module friendly config= urations? Or is that not possible because we need to support Java 1.8 too?<= br>
5) What is the best way to use Java 17 VM along with any new java syntax / = functionality while still using WOnder frameworks?

Thanks to all for reading this far :-)
=97 Aaron
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