X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.25a (ClamAV 0.103.8/26973) X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-KAS-Score: 0 [] Return-Path: Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.25] verified) by post.selbstdenker.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.3.18) with ESMTPS id 31057493 for webobjects-dev@wocommunity.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2023 03:30:08 +0200 Received-SPF: pass receiver=post.selbstdenker.com; client-ip=64.147.123.25; envelope-from=paulh@logicsquad.net Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B8F3200945; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:29:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=logicsquad.net; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1689730185; x= 1689816585; bh=+UFnHe5ljyzy9my0JzarSIT2MPjtV6raI+OVzMXvcz8=; b=l i3VxgtKMYb/wRTlhfeqGNLLEbp3QakQviBs7WxHEpoMeKpKOe7bN8xuNkDOoQdGz 3NSywwBm+C00UyvU0s/EypZGLULKUluWC+nIDby4XtZ0SETMpEPHn5YvJEP0+ZG2 FRa9LBkvHWD1qoBMXKqMg5mKpHB7oggFgBFpKFgAtm6DXw6M9f9JvcZEba3JP8DU fmdKCNPYrWilhWgsZlcC+BH3rSHH3k4GX43/qsAedzrWKTbnL7CV7BgbbaHLMMn7 cd7sGgALM0bKN0aHc9loCuMJiQWyiANI1f4uihwv+ecTQe8CkYvD2Mw6VCY6fFxi VCM7uvtEeYHq6vK61dFxg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1689730185; x=1689816585; bh=+UFnHe5ljyzy9 my0JzarSIT2MPjtV6raI+OVzMXvcz8=; b=bVDpauGd77O7bdoMQ+4rIDqRBVfeN TdjeeUlO6+TluTIY2Bba/mSsDafVuqN/fqvU6MFfJIGnsqEg//tiJud1QEDCa6+T XscPWdY98Q2NSIC2F01Q1EGkz6fVxzAnrxowwx1mwxwjL0vpqUB7RPH+EDkOhOlY 7c1qBEi5Rdntz6eIV7oMjgSSyCA2f+ipUiAajJD6QIiFJh6CN1mjfOy4Nh6hGcer 6GsnpziDbSxj8swnMt4fng0mKR5T/8N4pGjYQYVIGQjWnb4VBcKku/QwwZej5/Up 3iB0bM+naRQXgDepVpFXr/S3AEwn14rsic+bYObHfrPKhqx6Eci07t9RQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedrgeehgdegjecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefhkfgtggfuffgjvefvfhfosegrtdhmrehhtdejnecuhfhrohhmpefrrghulhcu jfhorggulhgvhicuoehprghulhhhsehlohhgihgtshhquhgrugdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepkeffvdefheffvdevhffhiefhgffgtedvgffhhfejlefguddtieetgffg gedttdetnecuffhomhgrihhnpehlohhgihgtshhquhgrugdrnhgvthdplhhinhhkvgguih hnrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhho mhepphgruhhlhheslhhoghhitghsqhhurggurdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i671c40f3:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Hoadley Message-Id: <3A51B102-5F02-4C35-94B9-AFE7278B40AB@logicsquad.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_07A199BA-A05A-4FDB-9E47-5C34675FE5DA" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.3\)) Subject: Re: WOLips bugfixes and new features planning Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:59:39 +0930 In-Reply-To: Cc: WebObjects & WOnder Development , WebObjects-Dev To: Maik Musall References: <93D038E8-E826-4198-9265-851909D7A259@selbstdenker.ag> <4992CFED-5F10-4210-8BFC-7CEFCB63C440@selbstdenker.ag> <694DCCC3-2F4C-45A8-B578-6A7FCEF0066E@logicsquad.net> <6B5F9218-7BE6-4A65-B25B-494A75BBDAB9@selbstdenker.ag> <6D572082-3722-4781-8C4F-7CFE0080A8A6@oeinc.com> <691C86D4-D832-460C-96E3-D1C64C8BE2E3@gowdy.co.uk> <53521946-D279-4FF7-AE8B-C46FFB8CAA36@selbstdenker.ag> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.3) --Apple-Mail=_07A199BA-A05A-4FDB-9E47-5C34675FE5DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Maik, On 18 Jul 2023, at 20:22, Maik Musall via Webobjects-dev = wrote: > We=E2=80=99re still sitting on the unused funds from everyone and feel = uncomfortable with the situation. As a single data point, this is no problem from Logic Squad's = perspective. We know you're holding the money and that spending it has = proven rather difficult! > In the meantime, we had a number of potential employees for job = interviews, and many of them weren=E2=80=99t fond of the idea to move = from whatever they used before to Eclipse. Maybe we should abandon that = idea and look at creating a plugin for IntelliJ instead or something, = and use the funds towards that? I note in Slack there are some people mentioning issues with very recent = Eclipse releases. What's the prospect of updating WOLips just to address = those issues? I'd be happy to spend some of the money on just keeping it = running. Who was it that made the most recent changes to address Eclipse = API changes, and can we tempt them with money to look at this? --=20 Paul Hoadley https://logicsquad.net/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/logic-squad/ --Apple-Mail=_07A199BA-A05A-4FDB-9E47-5C34675FE5DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Maik,

On 18 Jul 2023, at 20:22, Maik = Musall via Webobjects-dev <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote:

We=E2=80=99re still sitting on the unused = funds from everyone and feel uncomfortable with the situation.

As a = single data point, this is no problem from Logic Squad's perspective. We = know you're holding the money and that spending it has proven rather = difficult!

In the meantime, we had a = number of potential employees for job interviews, and many of them = weren=E2=80=99t fond of the idea to move from whatever they used before = to Eclipse. Maybe we should abandon that idea and look at creating a = plugin for IntelliJ instead or something, and use the funds towards = that?

I note in Slack there are some people mentioning = issues with very recent Eclipse releases. What's the prospect of = updating WOLips just to address those issues? I'd be happy to spend some = of the money on just keeping it running. Who was it that made the most = recent changes to address Eclipse API changes, and can we tempt them = with money to look at this?


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